Doug!! How dare you

"GeorgeyBoy" (georgeyboy) 03/02/2015 at 16:56 • Filed to: None

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Does MaxCare cover irate females?

For Sweden > GeorgeyBoy 03/02/2015 at 16:59

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Irate female what?

Nibby > GeorgeyBoy 03/02/2015 at 17:00

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Did the air suspension give out before or during the vandalism?

GeorgeyBoy > For Sweden 03/02/2015 at 17:01

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?

For Sweden > GeorgeyBoy 03/02/2015 at 17:02

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You ended your sentence on an adjective.

GeorgeyBoy > For Sweden 03/02/2015 at 17:03

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Females can't be a noun?

ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper > GeorgeyBoy 03/02/2015 at 17:04

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awww, its a heart, formed in broken glass... irony?

HammerheadFistpunch > GeorgeyBoy 03/02/2015 at 17:05

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No no no, this was a group a jeepers that did this after the range rover driver left their local chapter.

As Du Volant > Nibby 03/02/2015 at 17:06

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Or... the vandalism was staged for insurance fraud because the owner realized they'll never be able to afford keeping that thing on the road.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > For Sweden 03/02/2015 at 17:09

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See, while it *is* rude, with a faux-naturalist's or clinician's dismissing of the person behind the term, insisting that "female" is an adjective-and-not-a-noun only when describing people is a rather idiotic hobby-horse. It's not the only adjectival noun of convenience by a long shot, and it's been in noun use easily two hundred years. I understand that it's become rather a shibboleth in that way, but the "bad grammar!" reasoning is stupid, stupid, stupid.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > For Sweden 03/02/2015 at 17:11

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It's also a noun, and perfectly acceptable usage if a little outdated.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > GeorgeyBoy 03/02/2015 at 17:12

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There is the perception that extreme Mens' Rights loonies and varieties of broheim use the word in a dismissive and objectifying sense, so it has become Pop Grammar to allege the word itself as a noun is always incorrect - and pointing that out is a way of asserting feminist bona fides as a bonus.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 03/02/2015 at 17:14

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Jezebel might disagree. The "correct" usage of the word has become An Issue in certain circles. It's taken to be a dog-whistle for objectifying attitudes toward women - but the extent therein I'd argue isn't as clearcut. There have been those who've consciously adopted in that way, though.

505Turbeaux > HammerheadFistpunch 03/02/2015 at 17:15

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well they were right, that is a thing I won't understand

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > GeorgeyBoy 03/02/2015 at 17:18

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No, but insurance might

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/02/2015 at 17:22

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I'm not sure I quite understand. Surely as a scientifically correct term it can't have acquired a stigma because people disagree with being labeled as such? I say this knowing that it's true. But I'd have to try really hard to be offended by the term 'male', or if part a group; 'males'.

yamahog > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 03/02/2015 at 17:27

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perfectly acceptable usage if a little outdated. you want to sound like someone who observes women as a fascinating animal species instead of people

FTFY. I always hear David Attenborough or Steve Irwin when people refer to fellow humans as "males" or "females."

Tapas > GeorgeyBoy 03/02/2015 at 17:34

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Why does this one have a bubble roof?

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 03/02/2015 at 17:36

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"A female" is considered by a lot of US feminists and the like to be demeaning because of some kind of "I'm not an animal/object" thing. I'm not sure where it started, but I think it's related at least somewhat to a perception that only snotty people in the US current generation use the term, and that using it instead of "woman" etc. is a calculated snipe, a faux formalism that refers to an object. Lots of Mens' Rights Activist types are snotty and a bit aspie, and preppy types are somewhat more likely to use older or "fancier" words, so I don't know if the sense that only Such A Person would use "female" has any easily tracked origin.

I don't think it's really that nailed down even by region in the US, though, so you have people in a bubble sanitized of that word who are apt to run into a yokel, an older person, or anybody, really, and go bugfuck at something the person themselves didn't intend. Much like how "boy" is a generic address for one younger than oneself among some, but is likely to have Serious Meanings attached to it if heard by someone AfAm who grew up in the city - whether or not such meanings were present.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > yamahog 03/02/2015 at 17:37

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I don't view women as anything other than equal, if that's what you're trying to say! Is this more a US association to the term, or am I completely out of touch? Quite often on the news women are referred to as 'female', although normally within a specific context e.g. 'the attacker was described as female, 5'10", with blue jeans and black jacket.'

ranwhenparked > For Sweden 03/02/2015 at 17:38

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We don't know that for sure. Lots of other ways this could happen - he could have cheated a friend at Stratego, or it could have been done by a highly disgruntled IRS agent, or the owner could be gay.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/02/2015 at 17:46

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The fact that it's US centric explains it a little more. I cannot note if/when I've ever referred to someone as a female rather than a woman, because I've never considered the term to be at all derogatory so it's just not notable. Goddamnit now I feel like my racist 90 year old grandma. Offending people and not having a bloody clue.

yamahog > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 03/02/2015 at 17:51

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No, not at all. That's just the connotation it gives in casual conversation (vs the news example), not sure if it is a US-only phenomena. As RamblinRover is saying, it's become associated with (for lack of a better word) neckbeard-y MRA types who basically use it as a non-explicit form of "bitch" rather than just a synonym for "human woman."

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > yamahog 03/02/2015 at 18:03

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OK, I think I'm up to speed now. It certainly hasn't reached the north east of the United Kingdom yet. I've just asked my girlfriend if she would be offended by being called a female, and her answer was, 'What? I am'. I'll ask it periodically to gauge the spread of US faux-pas across the UK. As soon as I'm told to go and sleep in the dog kennel I'll know it's hit. God knows we have every other colloquialism and no-no from the US.

Snooder87 > For Sweden 03/02/2015 at 18:10

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Brah, this isn't Jezebel. Please stop this.